Let us Reason or When the Sick are Sickening

Come now  and let us reason together

says YHWH

Yeah! Sure! Right! Come ON! Let US reason! Let's go. Show your face and let's talk.

What are YOU waiting for?

Lost your tongue or something?

Where ARE Ya? Woohoo? Anybody home?

Hullo Hullo Hullo? Is there Anybody in there?

Just nod if you can hear me.

Is there anyone at HOME?

If ye be willing and obedient ???? yeah easy to say when you're God and all good and all loving and such but the fact is that we ARE NOT OBEDIENT to God. We OBEY MEN AND THEIR CRUEL WHIMSICAL rules: Each using fallacies and manipulation techniques, some sort of religious spy war holding a big invisible stick they pretend to possess. 

The whole thing is mind boggling.  Where IS that big God and why can't he talk to us and why does he keep using hopeless triple assholes to do his dirty work?

So now you see willingness and obedience have been a little bit cauterised since no man on earth and I mean no man deserves it and has certainly not earned it.

The same goes with parents too, respect is earned and deserved not beaten into you or some other cruel treatment or betrayal of your unholy choice.

But countless parents do not deserve respect and honour and what not and killing or hurting the child is just an ugly threat of self righteous religious ignorant chauvinistic hypocrites. 
Same goes with wives and husbands relationship to all of you medieval cavemen out there. 
Such a poor excuse to blame god for your own ugliness.

Plus I would add that a parent does not have the right to impose his lies on you.

Before you throw the book at me you should first do what it says and throw it at yourselves blind guides and hypocrites with beams in your eyes the size of a concrete stadium.

How can anyone pretend to be loving while preaching an angry god and taking this holy wrath on themselves is beyond me. 
Hypocrites, Hypocrites and Hypocrites and the worst kind of sinners at that too.

I'll tell you what the sin against the Spirit/Wind is,

the sin against the spirit/wind is SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS:

to lift your holy hypocritical nose on others and pretend that you are so much better than them because somehow you saw the fucking light, the light that allows you to think you are better than whores and publicans.  Quite simple indeed you are UNSAVABLE because you don't know or acknowledge that you are fucking SICK. You are totally unaware of it therefore there is no salvation or doctor or saviour that can help you, you are too good for them. You are FUCKED for life, Cursed forever.

They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.

My old story:  a fool who is a fool and knows he is a fool is a lesser fool than a fool who is a fool and doesn't know he is a fool. 

Many mental illnesses are closely related to (and strangely freakishly twisted by) religiosity.

Psychos and Schizos are often beyond help because they hear the voices and they believe the voices and YOU don't understand because you don't hear "Them".  Passive-Aggressive are probably in that lot too.

Passive-Aggressive go back a long long time:

Pro 30:11  There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother.

Pro 30:12  There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.

Pro 30:13  There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids are lifted up.

Pro 30:14  There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men.

They condemn themselves with their own words. Qui s'excuse, s'accuse.

You're gonna hate me BUT

You're gonna say I'm crazy BUT

I don't want to offend you BUT...

BUT BUT BUT I WILL! I WILL SHOVE MY OPINION DOWN YOUR FUCKING THROAT WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, WHETHER IT IS RUDE CRUEL OR OFFENSIVE OR NOT,  AND YOU WILL GET IT WITH A SMILE AND A NOT SO CHARMING IGNORANCE WHILE I PRETEND TO BE INNOCENT and ACT LIKE A DRAMA QUEEN TRYING TO CLAIM THAT OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE THE PROBLEM AND NOT READY TO RECEIVE MY UNINVITED AND UNWELCOMED ENLIGHTENMENT!~ AND IF YOU THROW MY VERY WORDS BACK AT ME WITH THE FULL CONTEXT I WILL GET HUFFED AND PUFFED AND ALL OFFENDED AND SAY THAT MY OWN WORDS (WITH CONTEXT) WERE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.  SO DON'T TRY FUCKING WINNING WITH ME NOW.

Don't we all know someone like that now?

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You want quote the fucking book at me? 
Come on! 
Fuck with the best, Die with the rest.

I can quote the fucking book too and my quoting is just as good is not much better and much more informed and IN CONTEXT than yours. For one thing it is a generally fucked up genocidal murderous book at best even though it does have its good parts but if most assholes who quote it would live by it, there would be (thank fuck for that) very few assholes left as they would all stone and burn each other to death like holy Juda wanting to burn the whore who bore his child the great great great... grand mother of Jesus. 

And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar;

And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth;

and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias;

Funny how Matthew insists on only mentioning the whores and pagan females in Jesus lineage.

Isa 1:18  Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Isa 1:19  If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

Isa 1:20  But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.   

Paraphrase:

Do as I tell you to do or else

 I WILL FUCK YOU UP BIG TIME MOTHERFUCKER.

make that a very LONNNNNNNNG TIME NOW.

Used today by religion and politics and cops and soldiers and teachers EVERYWHERE.

I am so tired of hearing the sword this and the sword that.

What is the obsession with these religious nuts and the fucking sword?

Don't they know that he who lives by the sword dies by the sword?

When why does an all powerful, omnipotent might god need a sword or an idiot with it?

Can't he just open the ground up? send a bolt of lightning? take our breath away (that HE GIVES apparently) give us a heart attack with his voice from heaven thundering I TOLD YOU SO MOFO? Why use an ignorant moron with a piece of steel in his hand doing what some greedy bastard is telling him to do? Why? Why? Why?

It would be so fucking easy for him to glorify himself and make us shit our pants and bow down and worship? 


But Nooooooooooooooo! 


Some MORON always has to do his work  and then

some MORON has to claim his work too 
like some redneck assholes claiming that
the Japanese Tsunami is GOD's payback for Pearl Harbour??? 
DUH FUCKING DUH! 
What will be your payback then for Hiroshima and Nagasaki and Dryden and what not? 

There is a pattern here: Pearl Harbour- 911:

"enemy" kills 3,000

USA pays back 100 times all the time it kills 300,000

here take that

and if you pay us back the same with 30,000,000 
well we will just kill 3,000,000,000 of yours 
ooops wait something is wrong here?

It would seem to me that the expression:

Power Corrupts and 
ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY

does not apply to the Almighty all POWERful YHWH

Moses could not handle it. 
He hit the motherfucking rock twice and that was the end of him.

That's it! No Promised Land for you Buster. You did it all but sorry you miss the mark with that one mistake. In fact you're lucky I didn't kill you earlier when you did not mutilate your male child. 

I try and I try and I try and I keep trying but I find a whimsical impossible God so hard to fathom, to comprehend. Are you sure he is a male? :)

Genocide stories and incest and pettiness and conniving between wives and servants and this is how it all started? Well FUCK ME.  Hardening of hearts whatever the fuck that is and 400 years of slavery and magic tricks just to show off? Who's your daddy now eh?

And that "Chosen" nation and now its children that lost all sense and purpose since the days of Constantine and now are trying to flog a dead horse and revive a stinking corpse full of worms and with no life and spirit left in him whatsoever.  A corpse divided in a thousand putrefied pieces.

Yet there are a few pearls in this stinking pile of shit book just like there are in any other wanna be canon I suppose but the stench is unbearable, the blood thirst and ignorance and Germinal riots and foaming at the mouth.  Totally Sick.

Isa 1:21  How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.

Isa 1:22  Thy silver is become dross, thy wine mixed with water:

Isa 1:23  Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.

Job 15:2  Should a wise man utter vain knowledge, and fill his belly with the east wind?

Job 15:3  Should he reason with unprofitable talk? or with speeches wherewith he can do no good?

Job 11:2  Should not the multitude of words be answered? and should a man full of talk be justified?

Job 11:3  Should thy lies make men hold their peace? and when thou mockest, shall no man make thee ashamed?

Again LOST in Translation, the word "Vain" here is RUACH in Hebrew the same word translated 227 times in the OT as Spirit and the rest of the 379 times altogether it is translated Wind(s) (93) and breath 27 also blast, air, storm, whirlwind and some more on this line so basically HOT AIR, SHIT STORM and breath so without interpretation of biased men the verse could either read

Should a wise man utter spiritual knowledge?

Or all the other verses could also read the wind of god , the breath of god the holy wind or holy breath if you prefer and then one can still say that there is no life without spirit since we all know there is no life without AIR, without breath and it could also be said that

ALL "SPIRITUAL" things are hot air, east wind, shit storm and nothing really but breath and a mix of oxygen and nitrogen that keeps an awful lot of animal beings alive.

That is an awful lot of fights and deaths and blood over something that is free to all, well so far.

Bottom line there is NO REASONING whatsoever with most humans but even less with religious maniacs as for reasoning with god it sure seems like a long monologue so far.

Take what you want and leave what you don't need.

Globalisation is Cauterisation.

Globalisation is Cauterisation of our Conscience

or what is left of it anyway.

We need a cauterisation of our tender conscience to buy an Xbox or a pair of Nike or a hundred other things that already clutter our house and our life.  

One can't simply asks a thousand questions
(and more importantly get the right answer)
every time one buys anything down to your Friday arvo fish and chips. 

Enough said just look around you now and start counting and maybe feeling and more importantly QUESTIONING.

Ironically enough the Thayer Greek Lexicon defines kauteriazo as

" To MARK by BRANDING"

Just Do It! :) What good little cattle you are!

Searing is sometimes necessary to stop the bleeding but bleeding in the first place is not a good start or a good state.

http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/games/xbox-workers-threaten-mass-suicide-report-20120111-1pudj.html

http://www.watoday.com.au/world/nike-supplier-to-pay-us1-million-to-shortchanged-workers-20120113-1py4p.html

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1176727/

1Ti 4:2  Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

They are all gone astray

A point skeptics often make is that

when talking about new or alternative therapies that are not supported by good clinical trial evidence is that lower-level evidence, such as theoretical justifications, anecdotes, and pre-clinical research like in vitro studies and animal model testing, can only be suggestive, never reliable proof of safety or efficacy. 

A point I often make is that

so-called legit science is not any better. How many times have we heard of falsified, bent, twisted, bought and sold clinical trials done over and over again and chosen and picked to get the answer Big Money WANTS to get?

It is exactly the same between theists, atheists and antitheists.  I highly respect a man like Hume or Sagan who although very intelligent has the humility to admit that ( and it is more than often the only admission available in anything and everything) we don't know enough.  More than often this admission will come from a professed atheist or at least agnostic.  Believers are usually either too emotional, too ignorant and too proud to admit doubts and questions of any kind or that they might be wrong and entirely deluded.

On a side note, speaking of names and epithets and little ganging of all sorts why don't we ever hear of masculinists? :) To defend us from the extreme right over bearing feminists, to restore some sort of balance? Ducks and runs now.

Exhausting indeed to check out everybody's POV.  I guess the only guru I will ever have from now on is myself and even then that guru is not very reliable I tell you.  But they all go astray, all of them. To paraphrase the KJV here, they all are corrupt, all, they all have done shit works, there is not one that does any good. None understand fuck all. They have all gone their own way, taken the wrong turn. 

They are ALL ABSOLUTELY FULL OF SHIT, ALL OF 'EM. 

None of  'em doeth good, no, not one 
and especially those who called themselves my people.
Those who don't are not any better.

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Psa 14:2  The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

Psa 14:3  They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

I was beginning to like some of Hitchens  works and words but then again he was all over the place, left, right and centre and extreme left and extreme right too so he was BOUND to have it right somewhere at some time for a millisecond.  He was deadly wrong on war of course and sucking up to the powers that be at one time and full of himself too but aren't we all? He and I and You and Me and All of us. Dawkins never really got in my boat either, 50 pages of him is all I could handle, he wasn't going anywhere, wasn't proving anything and basically is just afraid that his wife will kick him out if he believes, quite some intellectuals we have in the 21st century I tell you.  Speaking of here is another mind blowing "POLL" just to prove that humans polls are just that, HUMAN! Frail and irrational and emotional and twisted and corrupted and cheated and bought and as always absolutely full of shit. I mean look at this!!! FFS!

If this is the best man can produce we are in deep deep shit.

Maybe pigs and monkeys should have a list too.

C'est la vie say the old folks it goes to show you never can tell.

If only I'd listen to myself now!
I wouldn't be here with my own bullshit
annoying the hell out of everyone else's bullshit right? :)

and the wife says I've been telling HIM that for 11 years now :)

Sufficient unto the day is the bullshit thereof.

Is a choice made out of sheer ignorance still a choice?

Is a choice deeply engrained in our genetics still a choice?

Do we really make ALL of our so-called "choices"?

I DON'T THINK SO.

As far as I am concerned, Sartre is full of shit, Atheists are full of shit, Believers are so full of shit and I am the chief of the full of shit myself.  It only gets sad when our fullofshitness literally kills people when we are so full of our fullofshitness that we established ourselves judge, jury and executioner too. Because bottom line we are ALL little judges and juries we are all little fucking Napoleons and Popes and Final Authority on any subject.

My final authority says that if there is a God he can come down and talk to me.  He is Big and Strong and OmniOmniOm he can defend himself.  All them holy books and hermeneutics are nothing but bullshit from bullshitters.  Puny men trying to explain, excuse, execute a Humongous God's needs and words. He created the fucking world he can take care of himself. What pride and hubris to think that he would leave a fucking monkey to do his mighty work.  There are billions of bullshitters out there and all of them more righteous or self-righteous rather than his neighbour/brother.

Religion definitely is an invention of power freaks and I hate to admit that Nietzsche was unto something when he said that it was all about power.

It would seem to me that for someone to establish himself as a guru/messiah of any kind he would have to in part at least to walk the walk not only talk the talk. 

Why do I expect my messiah now to be a non-smoker, moderate drinker, non self-destructive AND SKINNY punk? Because I was trained that way?

Why would I expect a nutrition guru to die at 80 something from a surfing accident and not from a heart attack at 40?

Anyway I love Politics and Philosophy and Mythology and Religion talk and thoughts and I also love some science but in all matters bullshit and bullshitters are and will always remain and my job in life is to stir that shit for the sheer fun and pleasure of it and force a few to THINK beyond their intellectual capacities or just to think period.

What else can one do? There will never be an answer ever on this planet and our only personal answer in death and death alone so in the meanwhile let's raise the questions and eat and drink and be somewhat merry, as merry as an eagle surrounded by turkeys can be. If it won't be merry at least it is not ready to be out of food and ammos anytime soon anyway.

It is some sort of madness and hubris of my own I suppose to see the world around me and shake my head in despair in my vain search for intelligent life down here.  I walk in a shopping centre and all I see mostly is cattle, sheep without a shepherd some would say but that shepherd only wants to milk you, profit from you and then kill you and eat you.  Who wants to be a sheep or a cow or a pig anyway? how about one of the 50 billion chicken that get slaughtered every year (315 million this year alone and we're ONLY Jan 5th). Do they need a shepherd too or just a chicken man or some large corporation?

That's all for now folks. Sufficient unto the day is the bullshit thereof.